Join us in the pew this week as John and Victor reflect on their own seasons of hopelessness and what it means to feel stuck in patterns you can’t seem to break—whether it’s addiction, broken relationships, or the crushing belief that things will never get better.

But despair isn’t the end. They also discuss that with Christ, you can fight for hope, even when you can’t feel it. When you keep showing up in prayer, the sacraments, scripture, and community, John and Victor share how choosing hope—even a hundred times a day—is the most courageous thing a man can do.

If you take anything from this podcast, know that you are not alone. Despair doesn’t get the final word when you place your trust in Christ and rely on the grace of the Holy Spirit.